2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

The Corey Dillon Revenge Game

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Game Info

New England Patriots

Patriots

35

vs

Cincinnati Bengals

Bengals

28

Sunday December 12, 2004

	1	2	3	4	Final
New England Patriots	7	21	7	0	35
Cincinnati Bengals	0	14	7	7	28

Episode Transcript

This is Christine Brown, and while I have to listen to this podcast as my motherly duty,

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you have the choice not to.

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My sons sometimes say some naughty things when they're trying to be funny, but really,

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they're just being stupid.

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You still want to listen?

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Go right ahead.

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I am not your mother.

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Welcome back to the Page of Stancey podcast.

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I am your host, Andy Brown.

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We are going through every game of the Patriots dynasty era.

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We started in 2001.

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We are now week 14 of 2004.

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Patriots hosting the Cincinnati Bengals.

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So with me as always is a reliable brother Steve Brown.

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That's right.

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Mr. reliable Steve, reliable Brown, just like Troy Brown.

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Also very reliable.

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Sure.

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We'll go with that.

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Greg Brown today because he's tired from working.

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No, that's not true.

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We got rid of Greg.

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We upgraded him.

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So yeah, so yeah, well, without further ado, Steve, you have brought a, brought us a guest.

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Do we like to introduce us?

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I know all of the long suffering NFL franchise fans.

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So my, my, my buddy David Prue, the Bengals fan is joining us for this 2004 week 14, first

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the Bengals.

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I

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And thanks for the opportunity to join you guys. I look forward to discussing the Bengals and Carson Palmer's first year as a pool starter. Yeah

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Long suffering no more as well. That's true. Yeah, you guys are riding high finally

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We'll say I remember I was in the party for you before the season started you were stoked about the Bengals you were right

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Yeah, all right. Yeah, so should we start there? Um, I

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How do you feel about this most recent Super Bowl?

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- Yeah, no, seriously, it was a,

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now the next back of the year,

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you know, we're riding the Abujeri borough,

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Joe Marchace, what a great pickup.

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You know, the big young man playing quarterback

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at Sac Way more jobs than we wish.

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Looks like our offensive line has been addressed very well.

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You know, but this, I don't know the experience of being a new English sports fan, because

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you guys have rings.

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We have disappointment.

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So as happy as we were about making it a Super Bowl, it ended the way since the sports

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ends as always with a close call and a loss.

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Well, we feel great, but what I do now is still,

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the national media is still things that was a one year wonder.

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And it puts doubt in the centralized work fans head,

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what do I hear that?

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So we're hoping to accomplish our goals, get back there.

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But when you watch ESPN and all these other channels,

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We're not big on the other top of the MSC still.

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So, you know, it's so question

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whether or not it's retainable.

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- Wow, that's your problem right there.

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Listen to ESPN.

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- That is, yeah.

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- You should hear Boston Sports Talk,

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apparently the Patriots are fucking

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never gonna win a game ever again.

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- Yeah.

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- There was a-- - Sorry to talk

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about packaging Mac Jones

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and two first round draft picks for Russell Wilson.

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(laughing)

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Even though he's already been traded.

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So that's cool.

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There was a note from the commentators or stat in this game that the Bengals hadn't had

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a winning season since 1990.

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This is the-

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Yeah, but they had been 8-8 for the past, what, 2 or 3 years or something like that?

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And they would-

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They'd have to start a great game.

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Right?

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And then they go to the playoffs a bunch of years in a row and lose because Carson's good

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and then just couldn't get over that first round hump.

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Well, they had the Carson injury too, which was like that was their one year where they

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were kind of similar to this past year.

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of the one, came up on off and with the Steelers went low on Carson bomber. But since that true, since I sport fans are not cost Carson bomber fans because Carson bomber has been very negative.

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towards the Bengals for a very long time,

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even recently saying that the Bengals will never protect

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and he needs to find his way out after two great years.

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So Carson Ballmer's a four-letter work here

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in the greater Cincinnati area.

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- This is why we brought you on.

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I would have assumed that they love Carson Palmer.

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- Not at all, not at all.

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we've also met him and and obviously over the Super Bowl

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coverage, Carson Palmer was spoke up very heavily against the

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Mingles for an office and you know he's been out of the league for a couple

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years now I don't know why he's even around them anymore.

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So what do they think about Corey Dillon?

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That's a great transition.

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Okay, okay, he also shot his way out of town. Yeah, like worse

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Right because Corey was an exceptional talent got very little support and got frustrated and

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you know, you know, the obviously the

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The number one thing was either a badge and a helmet and a stand he did get his helmet back

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Which was a big deal for him but at that time that the franchise was in shambles and

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And it very very much should have been and Carson bomber didn't have what he needed

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And he forces way out and Marvin Lewis actually endorsed him to Bellachek

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When they were gonna make the trade

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But at that time he needed his way out very similar to what's going on with Cincinnati Sports now with the Reds

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the red zone or just

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One of the reds proud all presenters just told the fans on opening day

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Where else are you gonna go if you don't like the product get out of here?

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And I was tuition motto in

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2004 and five and six and now the the Bengals PR team and front office

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Our rock stars in this town. So Corey did what you need to do

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I'm always afforded that and I'm glad he got his ring

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So you were rooting for him in 04 what's that the Super Bowl that he plays in you're definitely all about him

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No, we were we were rooting for we were rooting for core down

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Well, and that's not the Patriots just Corey got it

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Not the Patriots. I get that

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But just going back and watching the video

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Just saying you know fifth year for

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Dollar check and all everything they were building up to it's kind of neat to go back and watch that in hindsight

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And we'll get where they were

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We're not patriot haters as much as you think we are mr. Brown. We're being the big supporters

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Yes, so we're doing and we're rooting for Chad Johnson when Chad got there. I'm a

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Worked out you guys got our

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Can we call them sloppy seconds on there? Oh, yeah

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You guys got his lobby for options in court. You are a kid didn't you know, I don't like work head

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He was sweet a rec break actually played alive also one of our former properties

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Rex was a very nice young man

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Yeah, you guys gotta cut a couple sloppy so happy seconds, but

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We really were he worked his tail off. Yeah, yeah, that's what it seems like when I was doing my deep dive on him

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He was just the kind of guy who was like the lone bright spot on the Bengals for basically

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his entire career.

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Yeah, yeah, really Anderson was awesome at that time and should be an all-fame in my

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opinion as a tackle.

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But Corey was just a, he was a blue collar, grinder, Cincinnati.

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I hate to say the word Pittsburgh.

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you know what is one of the not one of the not one of the northeast uh...

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you know country type uh... north east america types

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they get all handed to them

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cori dell and a grinder

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and uh... he just work itself so that's why we we supported him

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when he left even though he went to the enemy

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see you can tell they've never even been out of the state of kentucky

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uh... boy

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yeah all right uh...

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Let's see, let's talk about this 2004 Bengals team briefly too.

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Because like you said, it's the Carson Palmer's first year as a starter.

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Start off a little rocky and then seemed to turn it around.

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They had one coming into this game.

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They had won their four of their last five.

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The week before they had beat the Ravens.

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Before quarter comeback, Carson Palmer played probably his best game

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of his career at this point.

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And the week before that was the shoot out with the Browns that we talked about last week when the pages play the Browns

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That's the

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Was it was like 48 45 I think it's still the second highest scoring dawn overtime game in the history of the NFL that it was Browns Bengals

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And the Bengals still won by two scores

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in a shootout

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So

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So they're coming in flying pretty high

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They're even though they're only six and six, but Carson Palmer does get hurt in this game in the second half

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Kind of it was almost foreshadowing the the chemo van olafson

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Hit i thought because it was kind of like low in the side of his knee and I guess he had a

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A sprain in his knee is what they they said on the the highlights afterwards

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Um, so I work someone hit tom Brady like that and the NFL made it illegal

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Right. Well, actually, they made it illegal when car.

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We call that a Tom Brady rule, not the Carson Palmer

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was a certain time where he went.

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I think it is the Carson Palmer rule that and they did.

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They put it in that off season.

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And then it's just everybody remembers the Tom Brady one

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because he was coming off his 2007 season.

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Yeah. Very sad. Yeah.

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So yeah, but so this is a kind of a promising upstart.

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Bengals team. But a bright spot would be that they would make their first appearance on Monday

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night football since 1992, where they would beat the Denver Broncos at home. But there

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one, I would say Achilles heel for this team up until just very recently was that they were

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coached by Marvin Lewis. And so I'm curious to get a Bengals fans perspective on Marvin

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Lewis because he was one of those coaches who, I mean, it's almost like the Andy Dalton

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line where it's the Marvin Lewis line where he will get you the playoffs, but you will

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not win a playoff game. And is that good or is that not good? He's like a little bit

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better Jeff Fisher.

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Yeah.

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Well, you know, in 2005, Marvel was great. You know, we came out of nowhere. We started

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win games 2005 it was the AFC champions if I believe right that was the year after

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this year so you could get a model game in championship culture but he changed the culture

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today we're good enough and we're good enough to make the playoffs we're good enough to win

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nine or ten games and that was great until it good enough became the standard.

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And so that was a problem but in that 2004 game with the talent that they had

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with the first year starter tomorrow was a hero and you know not to get into

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anything much more, you know, we had an African American coach, one of the few, and

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I think it resonated great with the players at that time to have one of the

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few and to Jan and Marzemann Zada, who's a very strong personality. I don't know if

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we could have had a different coach at the time to get to the wrong. The problem

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was Marvin could never get him over the hump. But if we're going back to the 2004-2005-2006 era,

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it certainly was better than Dave Schuyla. And a lot of the coaches we had three Marvin

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loans. And he's had a great tenure. But if you ask me a question of 2004, we were ecstatic.

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Yes, man. Question of 2008, 1716 before we made this list.

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And it's time to make this legend.

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The same would have been said for our current coach

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after year one and year two. So I really believe, you know, you have to give these guys a little more

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leash than what they need. It's hard to change culture.

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As Mr. Brown knows and everything we do, Steve, you know, it's hard to change culture.

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Sometimes you gotta be the bad guy. It's not hard for me. I don't have to do any of it.

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That feels about right. That sums up.

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Fair enough. All right. Yeah. He didn't fare very well against bell checking the Patriots.

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The Pats went six and one

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First Marvin Lewis led Bengals

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Steve do you remember the loss or do we either of you remember the Patriots loss of the Bengals?

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Having in 2000

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It was not

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No, I remember I only remember because it was in the rain and Brady just couldn't throw a touchdown

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As well as like slog games in Cincinnati. It was just awful year was it 2013. It was just

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It was like the last years.

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Yeah, it was. Yeah.

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It was a tough game.

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This game does have a name though.

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Okay.

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It does.

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How certain games have names and you watch.

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Oh, yeah, that's the whatever game.

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Yeah.

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This is the, I don't know what do you call it?

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What's your name for this game, Andy?

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The Corey Dillon revenge game.

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No, no.

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Oh, you're thinking that you missed the big play.

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Oh.

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Well, I mean, which big play?

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play. There's a few.

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- You call it like a butt pass or a seated pass or?

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- Oh, that, okay. So there is that.

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I mean, there's a lot to get into in this game.

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But before we do that, let's just real quick.

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I want to go over some of the other coaches in this,

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this team because it's just the fact that they were,

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ah, fuck it doesn't matter.

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No, my.

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(laughs)

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- I'll try to, I'll try to,

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I'll try to, I'll try to,

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shoe or a new Jackson in there somehow, but,

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bucket.

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See the lot in the coaching side.

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You Jackson out of a lot of conversations.

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You'll be okay here in Cincinnati.

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It's not where.

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Yeah.

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I mean, he's he's the wide receivers coach and he's coaching Chad Jackson and TJ who's

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mr.

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And somehow managed to turn that into a head coaching career where he went three and

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thirty six and one with the Browns.

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some work. He was 500 with the Raiders. For how many games? Two? Yeah, one in one. I think

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he was even able to write it. All right. I mean, he was not a someone else. We're gonna really

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want to talk much about him since then, and because he's he's still a little disgruntled since

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He didn't get the head coaching job here when Marvin decided stuff.

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Wow, that's right.

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Right.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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Now we did.

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Yeah.

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It went 8 and 8 in Oakland before going 1 and 15, 0 and 16 and then 2, 5 and 1 in Cleveland in three years.

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How do you get that third season?

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I've got my stats there.

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Round game.

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I know why you Jackson.

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But I mean, the stuff I just stuck out from that ball game with me,

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What would the revenge game one? I don't think Dylan got much revenge. He did he's on a touchdown. It wasn't a touchdown true

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He was actually down. Yeah

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Rudy John. It looked like a Rudy Johnson revenge game in the first half. Yeah, he was pretty good

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Well, I mean pretty much it came down to bulk control that

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Interception for a touchdown. I think change it and and I love Troy Brown to white player

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a toy brown and

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We're scored to touch down on our interception

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Sante Samuel

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Rookie by looking at that deep months on

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Acting how the bing was gonna win against risky Harrison Seymour McGinnis will fork

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You keep coming coming into the game everyone was worried because the Bengals could throw the ball around the yard

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We're starting earthwind, warland didn't yeah

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Yeah, they're secondary so bad. Yeah, it was just a secondary that was the issue and so going up against a

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Pass heavy team you kind of expected the bang was come out just slinging the ball and they really didn't

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the one that, and then the one that was a success on the ground. They ran Rudy a lot. And Rudy had a great game, except for that fumble that I don't think was a fumble other, but we can. Bring that non fumble and non touch down to Bing was probably win that game.

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I know, I just, because there was a third down, they would have gone for it on fourth

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and Corey Dolan to punch that through.

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But I think that was one of the first times that Brady Snake really turned into a Brady

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Snake.

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You think so?

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He's snuck it on board down and got about three yards and that changed the game too.

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Well, that's, I mean, that's just what he's been doing.

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That's what he's been doing.

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Like since, since week one, like of his career, that's kind of what he's been doing.

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- That is.

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- I don't know how it took so many teams so long to stop it.

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I'm a little surprised that the play

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that I keep seeing pop up is the Patriots go

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five wide real quick and Brady's in the shotgun

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to start out with sends everybody out wide

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so that you don't have much of defenders in the box

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and then just steps up underneath the center

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and goose is in and gets the two, three,

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however many yards he needs that way.

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And it's just so simple.

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- He's the only one who needs one.

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I mean, he gets three when he needs one.

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He doesn't get one and a half.

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He always gets three.

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- Yeah, and he does it every time.

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I think he has like a 98% success rate or something.

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He's been doing it for 20 years.

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It's unbelievable.

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- One of the best short yardage backs

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in the history of the NFL.

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- Well, that's how he got to a thousand yards doing it, right?

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Like two yards.

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- He did.

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I think his longest carry is like 22 yards.

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- I think he've already seen it too.

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- Yeah.

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- He was like, "Oh, two."

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Yeah, it was not, it was not a reason.

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Um, they have baby gazelle out there.

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They're all arms and legs.

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Oh my God.

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Yeah.

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It does.

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It looks like a baby giraffe.

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Just been born, learn how to use its arms and legs.

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Uh, super patch fans.

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Why is this called the delivery bench game?

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And if Dylan was a non factor is because he really only plays one year.

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Right.

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Because Corey Dillon is not really a factor outside of this one season.

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I mean, this is, yeah, this is big.

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I think he next season does OK, but yeah, the wheels kind of fall off of me.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It's hurt.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It's replaced by Lawrence Moroni, I believe, all people.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And I say this is not known for the Corey Dillon revenge game.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This game is known for that play where Tom Brady lands on his ass after like

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

stumbling over his own feet, dropping back and throws.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That's in my notes.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And I love that.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I want to sum that up in a name, but like, I don't know, but past name.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

game game game I don't know yeah yeah I don't know why it's a game game because

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I've got in my notes great passes from his ass yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

simply ass past game but I still don't think he had the I think we were so

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

figured out who he was and I think between the quarterback snake, the ass past and

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

just the way he handled himself. I mean you got Christian Fourier, a sport of touch. I mean

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

you got Troy Brown's for you know getting an interception. I mean it's just always been the

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

no name you know other than the names are on the defense on that team and that's awesome and I

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I wish in Cincinnati we had that kind of a lot.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- And no receivers over like five foot 10.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, always the title, guys.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, but I mean, yeah, to your point,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I think the reason this is the Dylan revenge game

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

is 'cause that's how it was posed pregame, you know?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And like all the highlights were about how Corey Dylan

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

was still hated by the Bengals and like even in the announcers

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

when he scored his first touch,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

and he's like, oh, it's nice to see everybody still being

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

professional and that there's no extra pushing and shoving

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

after he scored sort of shit.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So I think they were expecting it to be this like super kind

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

of like scrappy, touch and go sort of thing.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And it just wasn't.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Well, that's a testament to his work ethic here

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

in Cincinnati.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

The people that were in the trenches with them,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

the grinded with them were happy for him.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- And at that time, most of them probably wish

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

they weren't out of Cincinnati. And so they didn't hold that against him. They were happy

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

for him because he actually found his way. It was dysfunctional and all means here at

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

that time and has been up until the last couple of years. So yeah, I mean, I get it. And the

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

last image of him in Cincinnati was thrown his pads in the stands. So whatever, how

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You know, whatever, how else are you going to do the, you know, the story going into it as broadcast or

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

other than he's going back up against him. But now I think that everybody was classy and he's still in

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

school on that touchdown.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Okay. And let's not pretend like Corey do doesn't have a good game.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

22 carries 88 yards a touchdown.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It's four.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And they said in the broadcast he's the only player ever and that this may even still stand to get 75 plus

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

rushing yards in every game he's played.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

The room is really jobs and stats.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Kind of similar. Very similar.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Dylan had one less yard, but a better average in a tuddy.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Right. And get in the game and played pretty well.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

The end, you did. Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Getting ahead of nine for 13, one, 26 a touchdown and a pick.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah. But I mean, Detroit Brown.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It's tough to say you've had a good day as a quarterback,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

when the one interception you threw was to a converted wide receiver in the end.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

In the end, it has a bad place to go picked. And you know, I mean, Drew Bledsoke can attest.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But add the my favorite fact from this game is after this game, Troy Brown has now three

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

interceptions on the season, which is tied for the team lead. In these options, Troy Brown is

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

leading the team leading this defense of all defenses. The 2004 doing the game.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Was it was amazing that was right when I'm a he played everywhere

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And he wound up didn't his career end at the Preble with a

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Catch in the sand and he heard himself. No, I was with I was there running back. Yeah

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Robert

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm he played everything he did everything. I enjoy that hurt himself in the Preble

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, Robert. It's what's like what he does five

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, Robert. I was like early

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I think it was like, my affection 2000.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

'Cause he was supposed to be replacing

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

for Curtis Martin, I believe.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Oh yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- And like he had a great rookie season in the Pro Bowl.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He tore it and like, he was just never the same.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Played in sand football.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It was like, exploded his knee and never played again.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, he did play again.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- He did, he played for the-

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- On his podcast, yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, he played for Miami.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And did nothing, 'cause he just wasn't the same guy.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

list off the Bengals turnovers in this game. Okay. First drive, Rudy Johnson

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

fumble on the 12. Even though. Yeah. That's pretty sure even the game log.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Then pick six right after the Patriots score touchdown, they come out and

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

immediately throw a pick six. Yeah. So two touchdowns and 12 seconds.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah. And then John Kitna throwing that interception to Troy Brown in

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

turn around zone and zone. Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And he took it out of the three.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Would you should have stayed down?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He should have. But I mean, you know,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

when you're a wide receiver and a punt

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

returner, like all that just looks like

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

green fields. You can't help yourself.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But they're on the New England 10

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

yard line. So there's three turnovers

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

inside the 15. Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

In the red zone or in the Patriots.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Cory down was traded for the Medillo

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Williams I think is what that pick wind up being

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He was traded for a pick it turned into Madee Williams and Madee was a fan favorite here

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But yes, yes

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Grading falls and complete pass from his ass is the biggest thing I have circled in my nose

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It should be the the buck bumble and the ass pass

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

There's a game should go down on history. I got a difference. Thank you if they replayed that on

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

and he has been now, most people probably forgot about that aspis.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Oh, definitely.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- I think-

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- But you see it as a major saying, you go,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

"Oh shit, I remember that."

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But you don't really thought about it.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- No, yeah, yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- That's the difference between us and the Jets.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

The Jets have the butt fumble.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We have the ass pass, you know?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This is two totally different franchises going

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

in totally different directions.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- We also won that game and I don't think the Jets won

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

the butt funnel game.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Oh, they very much did not.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

(laughing)

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- They got like 40, they got four touchdowns scored

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

like a minute and a half, right? It was it was three touchdowns in under a minute. Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Mark Sanchez looks great on TV though. He does. He's a very pretty man.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Guys, any other questions for me before I have bogged down your stuff too much,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I could do this for days and days. I love this stuff. I know you can.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I mean, we started a podcast to do this, so we could also do this for days and days.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

What's Brady gonna do? Is this why I swear on? What do you guys think?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You know what? It's nice not to have to worry about that anymore.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, it's basically really nice. You know, you don't have to. It's not really my problem.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's a maggones. He's reached his Brett Farr.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah. You're secretly stalking him, Steve Brown. I know you are.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh, don't you know

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Dms you're keeping an eye on him. I know you are of course I keep an eye on him

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's like it's like an ex girlfriend. You know you sometimes check their social medias or whatever

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Just yeah, just to see if they're happier or less happy without you. Hopefully everything's working out for them

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Wish them all the best

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And if it's not the best that's fine, too

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It's fine

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Troy Brown is the pages player that you married.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You know, you love Troy Brown.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's everything you ever wanted.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- I love Troy Brown as well.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- We're the number one Troy Brown fans.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We're working our hardest to get him on his podcast.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- And we'll stop it, or I might stop.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

(laughs)

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- My life's mission will be accomplished.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, I mean, what more is there after that, right?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, I agree.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Being able to talk to Troy Brown about his time

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

on the Patriots.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- How much we love him?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That'll be weird for him.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Oh, it definitely will be.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

All right, let's see.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Do I have any more bangles stuff?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I don't think so.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I mean, this is just-- it's one of those forgotten games

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

where there's a lot of cool stuff that happens,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

but there's nothing particularly memorable

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

about the game itself.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Like, it wasn't--

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It wasn't--

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You didn't watch abilities for Andy.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It wasn't really back and forth.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I mean, watch abilities score.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So we do it out of six Lombardes.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I would say four.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

There's a good amount of scoring, this great plays.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It's definitely rewatchable.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And it's one of those maybe like,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

not quite on the forgotten gems level,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

but it's close to that, I would say.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- I give it a four and a half.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Okay.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- A four and AOC Championship ring, if you--

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- I could be, I could be.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Because there's a lot of great big name players in this,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

and they all ball out.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Teach you who's from Zada has awesome--

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, like 12 catchers or something, yeah?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, Earth wouldn't bore it.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, it's 11 the last I kept track of TJ was a mom.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I would say on the bingleside,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I know this is a Patriots podcast,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

but on the bingleside,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

it was definitely a little bit of a turning point.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Like we can play with these guys.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- And the next year, they won the AFC North

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

and that started there.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You know, a couple of year running to playoffs with Marvin, they never want to play off game.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But I think it was a measuring stick game for them.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You can see there was a little chipping list, but overall, I mean, the Patriots dynasty had already started,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

but nobody knew what it was going to actually be.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But they have tried to tell with them, and they kept it close.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And so, you know, from a bigger fan perspective, it was like, okay, we're close.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You know, we don't fumble.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We, you know, we don't know that interception.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And maybe win that game and we're seven and six

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

instead of six and seven.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And from then on, it went great.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And, you know, and Bellagic was in his fifth year, I think,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

as a coach.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And what, you know, now we've got him.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Still same guy.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, I'm wrecking people too at that point.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

His halftime interview was great and it looked like Bojack today. He had the same answers he would today.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So he talks a lot more back in the day. He talks about he's a little recent.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You guys are very fortunate to have what you have there and I feel sorry for you in the AFC going forward

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

because with this new offensive line and all the skill players we have it's going to be,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You'll be on my podcast here in about three years.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

All right.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We will hold you to that.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Sure.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We'll put on your podcast.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Someone who says, "Teach me out of do a podcast."

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Steve.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Well, when is the when is the Joe Barrow versus Mac Jones match up?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That'll be good.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Isn't this year coming up?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I think so.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I don't know.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I'm on Google and there right now.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We are stat check, bro.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

fact check. Yes, let's let's. We turn to schedule there. They do

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

play the Bengals at Foxboro.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Hey, what week? It has been determined. Oh, right. Hasn't

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

been really set. Correct. So they know, we'll see. We're about

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

to find out. Maybe the Patriots are like, wow, we can really

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

hang with these guys. They went to the Super Bowl last year.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Measuring

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Check for the bank here coming up

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I'm gonna let you know unless you need me for anything else Steve you got anything out for me. Thanks for coming on David

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Secrets

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Nothing good in that that closet

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, I really like having you. Thanks a lot, David. Anytime. Thanks, guys. All right.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Take it easy. Take it easy, guys. I mean, it's got some cocho vibes. Yeah, I told you

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

cocho. Yeah. Kentucky cocho. He's the best. Yeah. I'm a little disappointed Greg's not

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

here because I had a genius bill Belichick thing for him to scoff at. Yes. So a couple

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

of them actually. Oh, multiple. Right. Yeah. So maybe we'll save this for Greg. We'll

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

cut this clip and play it for him. But at the beginning of the game, they're talking

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

about how, you know, the Patriots are what 11 and one coming into this game. So, you know,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

they need some motivation to play 500 Bengals team. But I guess these two teams have played

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

in the preseason and the Bengals were up 31 nothing at halftime over the Patriots. So

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Bellachek spent the entire week playing the lowlights because you saying that

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We got whoops and they're like, oh, it's just preseas like yeah, all our starters were in though

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So he was playing all of the bullshit stuff that happened in the preseason just to get him hype for this and

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

the other thing was that

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

One of the Bengals defensive backs Tory James apparently

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

super long dude big long arms, so

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Bellachek had the

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

defensive backs carrying racquetball rackets to knock down footballs.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That's a classic.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Right? It's so bad. It's like the 2001 Super Bowl where he had all the wide receivers line up

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

for yards off sides to simulate the speed of the Rams offense. Just thinking outside the box.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Steve, you know what that is? It's genius.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh, yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Fucking genius.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Nobody else does that.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No one else has thought he is pretty good.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No one knows that they even knows the thing about that.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I think he's on our team.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh my god, yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh, yeah, he's the best.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's a Troy Brown.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This is another peak Troy Brown game.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Troy Brown is the premium Troy Brown we're in right now.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Even the fact that he was, he actually got a defensive holding call that was declined because he's covering TJ Hushman's on the third downs out of the slot.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

also draws OPI on Hushkonzada.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

One of its area.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That's like, it's amazing.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah. Yeah. This is this is peak Troy Brown.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This in 2001, like 2001 peak, like offensive Troy Brown, you know, like

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh, one oh two.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And this is peak just like

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Patriot Troy Brown, right?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You're your prototypical player, prototypical New England,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Just football player, you know.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I'm wondering if actually if it was this season that he lined up as the emergency quarterback

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

in the preseason.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Probably.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Let's see.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Talk amongst yourself, Stephen.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I'm going through whatever else I got on my notes here.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I was not.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It was 2006.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So he hasn't even done that yet.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Line up a quarterback.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's been this back now.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's on the goal in like 17 at that point.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

2006.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's still he's still around 2007 when yeah, we talked about if him

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

and my shows on Randy Moss cross and they did. Yeah. So here's a good

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

step that I wanted to bring up about Corey Dillon because they showed

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

how he's doing this year compared to his career high numbers. Like just

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

across the board. So his career high rushes per game were just over 21.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This season he's averaging 23 carries a game.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

His career high for rushing yards per game in a season was previously just over 89.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This year it's over 100, 111 yards.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

His yards per rush is still 4.8, which matches his career high.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And he in this game gets his 10th touchdown of the season, which matches yet another career high.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So this is he's setting career highs in literally every statistic this season.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It's tough that he doesn't bawl out more years than just this one, you know?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He does.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, I mean, he, he's set only your, I even remember Cory Dylan.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Well, that's because you were like 12.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's been around.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, no, but like also, but I think back about the pages, dynasty, it's like, yeah, Cory

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Dylan, oh four, and no one's like, Cory Dylan, oh five, oh six, oh seven, it could have been.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh, you're talking about on the page.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Okay.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I see what you're saying.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

with injuries and stuff.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It's like sort of the end of his career.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Like this is his last good season, I feel like.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You pretty much.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I think it goes somewhere else eventually.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Nope.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, it retires as a patriot.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

There you go.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Put him in the hall.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Put him in the hall.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I would agree.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Is he actually the Hall of Famer NFL?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Um, it doesn't say anything anywhere of him being a Hall of Famer

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

in his Wikipedia.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So I'm going to say no, which is a shame.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Because he, I mean, he set the rookie record for rushing yards in a game, which again,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

has since been broken 39 times for 246 yards and four touchdowns over the Tennessee Oilers,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

which broke Jim Brown's rookie single season game record that had stood at that point for 40 years.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I think it's still been it's been broken since by somebody weird.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Where is it?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Um, oh, Mike Anderson.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh, yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

As since broken that he also held the single game, like singles game rushing

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

record overall, um, which again has since been broken, but he ran for

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Uh, 278 yards against the Broncos, which broke Walter

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Payton's 275, which again, had stood for like 40 years.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Cause you know, Walter Payton was way back then.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He said it in 77.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Um, and then all 16 games in 2006.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, but I think he's hurt when he's doing it.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh, actually no, uh, 2006 he was sharing.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Um, the, the backfield with Lawrence Moroni.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He was sick as 13 touchdowns.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That says career high.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That's not bad.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So I think you may have been the short, short yardage back.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Perhaps.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I mean, his touchdowns for the Patriots go 12, 12, 13.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

The yards go from 1600 to 733 to 812, but his carries 200 ish.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I mean, boy, he's going to touch that.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You didn't know five.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That's what I'm saying.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Like I feel like this is the only year he's good, but looking at the stats,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

he's definitely only plays 12 games and 05, but six.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He plays all the whole year.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Carries at a 4.1 average and score 13 touchdowns in 800 yards.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Today, that's like a game in Harris, balling out.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You know, yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But that's not the 4.8 yards it carries getting in 2004.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Right.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So I guess he didn't play long enough really to get in the home, but still.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And what you think he's eight years into his career, played every single game,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

except for a couple of this last year in Cincinnati and he gets over 75

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

yards every single one of them.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's a true work horse back.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's like, yeah, he's one of those cool.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Why don't you?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I don't think he got 75 yards in every single game he's ever played.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I think I think it was with the Patriots.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, I think they said in his career.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, because I saw something where he there was some drama about him, like

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

coming off the field and like not going back on because he had like 12

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

carries for nine yards in one game because his offensive line was so bad.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I refuse to believe that's big news.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Okay.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I mean, it's probably

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

probably easy.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Looked up, but kind of this stat has been beat Andy.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

What's that?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Um, Patriots extend their records at 18 straight games scoring first.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I saw that.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And also, um, uh, they also have not allowed an opening drive touch on in the last

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

28 games, which is fucking bananas.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That is because they're about to score a touchdown.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

They're driving on this thing and then

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

fumbles.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I'm just going to say that statement and that wasn't a fumble.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

They figured out every time.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Unbelievable. Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That's got to be a record, right?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I would have to imagine scoring first is an 18 straight.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I mean, it's a season plus scoring first.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

consecutive

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Games NFL record

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Let's see top NFL streaks

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Fuck it's got you get the hell out of here. Oh geez

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

brutal

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Second most super bowl appearances

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Games one. Yeah losses again losses scoring

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Boy

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

All right, I don't care. We'll find out when it ends what it actually ends up and then we can figure it out then I'll

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

What that okay, what else you got on this game?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Let's see

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Just talk about the announcers. I know you have big feelings on those no I blocked him out

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Really stuff. What about the time when the dude saw a piece of trash on the field? I thought I was a flak

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I feel when I saw that I thought who he's gonna be real triggered by that

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Because it was on the Asante Samuel pick six. Yeah. Yeah, and like oh wait does a flag down and

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And they even like flipped a little like yellow flag thing in the in the presentation

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Like there's a flag on the field and obviously somebody whispered in his ear. That's not a flag that's trash

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

They're like oh, oh wait. No, it's it's a McDonald's box. But look it's got yellow on the side of it. Yep

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, he didn't like it. Okay

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

What about them saying, bell check numbers, pounds of square peg into a round hole?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He does it all the time.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You just hate your Andy.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yes.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It was that fumble was like, they waited to call that too.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh my god.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It was like the play was over and like, uh, you know what?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Let's call that a fumble.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It took them a while to figure out what was going on.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But, you know, I mean, it's par for the court.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Cause this is a deer dog, wasn't it?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, definitely sound like the door.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So we all know how I feel about a deer dwarf as if he's watching a different game.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So water off a duck's back.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

See, I'm a father.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Now I can't carry that anger.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You're trying to do this, but I know deep down that.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, I'm a father now.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We can now you're all stressed out and now you're to watch this guy or listen to

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

a deer dwarf.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, it's very naughty.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It's fine.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Uh, oh, they did talk about, uh, Charlie Weiss though, because apparently he has officially

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

officially, unofficially that they kept kind of going back and forth because, you know,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

it's Dan Dudor.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's on top.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And now it's that he's going to be the head coach of Notre Dame.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I don't need to have been announced, but it was like Adam Schefter at this point had

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

tweeted it.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That's what it felt like.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That version of whatever that is a no for.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, exactly.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So it was like unofficially official, basically.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And the other thing kind of swirling around this game that didn't have anything to do it was paint manning chasing Marina

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Touchdown record fucking worse and sufferable

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, it's a sufferable and I remember hating time - yeah now I'm seeing these again bring back all that PTSD about

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I don't give a shit right and also like all his touchdowns were within the five-yard line

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So he's just like he's throwing on every single like drives just so we can get the the record because there was actually a stat

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Recently that I saw

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I wonder if I saved it, but it was basically,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

you know, Tom Brady has thrown all these touchdowns,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

but they went and somebody went back and found

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

how many short yardage touchdowns

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

all the offenses of the top quarterbacks had.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And Tom Brady had like twice as many

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

who was whoever was in second, Peyton or Aaron Ryder

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

or something like that.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

but they had like twice as many,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

like rushing touchdowns within five yards

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

than any other quarterback.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So Brady was never the one to go or, you know,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Belichick or whoever was calling the offense,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

was never one to be like,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

"Oh, we're just gonna sling it from the five

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

just to get Brady some touchdowns stats."

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Whatever, he did it without that.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- So he did it without padding, you know?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, whatever won the game.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Some other idiot on the internet went

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

and kind of give of every single Tom Brady touchdown pass

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

and put it on a website.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Tom Brady touchdowns.com.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Fucking loser.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Tom Brady TDs are kind of.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And in fact, there is new,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

the new graph on there, Steve.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I don't know if you've been recently.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- How do you get a new graph?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- I'm a viral with this one too, bro.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- It's a scatter plot.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- What did Greg say today in the group chat?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- I don't know.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- You don't even read it, anyhow.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I usually just tune you guys out.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, this isn't the family one those pics would do numbeys on the gram. Oh

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, well this this this is probably too nerdy to do numbeys

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Because it's have another website Tom Brady TDs calm. Yeah, that's just all it such as because I could I couldn't track all his

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Buccaneers touchdowns on Pat's dynasty dot com. Oh, yeah, of course not of course not so right now it only has

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

has his Patriots touchdowns, but I have tracked the game time, like time remaining in the

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

quarter for each touchdown and created a scatter plot. Touchdowns, the X axis is game time

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

and the Y axis is the distance of the touchdown pass. So it just kind of shows you where all

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

the grouping is there's a whole mess of touchdowns within a minute of the second quarter ending.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Like a stack of them. And then again, kind of towards the end of the game as well.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And at the end of every quarter, kind of seems. And for some reason, with 12 minutes left in the

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

second quarter, there's a massive stack as well. How does Tom Brady have two touchdowns with

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

negative seven area. It's just what thrown behind the line.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Screenplays. Yeah. The areas I based on.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Screenplays are like negative sevens, though. I mean, I get the fours, five,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

the three, as 14, three yards behind those are screens.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, some of them. Well, here's the thing. You can click on any single one

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

that's there and it will show you the video of the play.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Not your site's broken, bro. Click on it now.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So let me click.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I just did it. I'm looking at it.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Maybe just renders wrong.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So it's a Brady Antoine Smith, where he rolled out

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

to the right, others against the Saints in 2001.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Again, we rolled to the right and then threw it back

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

to the left.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Antoine Smith, he was seven yards behind the line of scrimmage.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And similar to the James White one too.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It's kind of-- he's out of a shotgun,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

and he has to drift back, and then throws out

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

a swing pass behind the line of scrimmage.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

James White behind the line of scrimmage.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh, so I was clicking the graph.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I didn't click on the right, the bars.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Well, how is clicking on the graph going to do it, Steve?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Because they'll bring it up in the IDLC.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I know reading cover ranges hard,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

but all the touchdowns at the top,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

you can click on all the dots and that will play the video.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It's crazy as long as touch sounds only 55 area yards.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I mean, that's kind of a lot.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I don't know.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

They should not really anymore.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I mean, I don't know.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You'd have to look up.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And this is just like from the line of scrimmage, how far did the ball go?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

If you only count yards, game down passes that went for TDS.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He has more yards and rex growth.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Correct.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That's not that's not very impressive.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Exgrowments fucking sucks.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Correct.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Girls.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I went to a Super Bowl.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I know he did.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And he's like universally panned as like the worst Super Bowl quarterback of all time.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh, that's not true.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Who's the worst?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

The the Ravens guy, Kyle now.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Who is the Kyle bowler?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Uh, was that?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, it was the experts was right there with him.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Kerry Collins.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I mean, he's, but he was still a starting quarterback that went super and Tom Brady is

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

from more passing yards just on touchdowns alone than he has.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Tom Brady has from more touchdown playoff touchdowns than Joey Harrington or Jay Fiedler.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And they're ever through.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Again, we're like super impressive.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Those guys suck.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Well, yeah, I mean that's kind of how this works Steve

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It's not like he's gonna throw more playoff touchdowns and paint Manning as ever throw touchdowns, is it?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You're right. There's a lot of touchdowns in the last second of the second quarter. Yep

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

There is one bucks TD on here. What are you talking? There was one. Yeah, so it's his two playoffs

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This is a riveting. I'm sure for people listening well as you go on the website is it is actually very interesting

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And I can't believe you found time to make this fucking website

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Don't you have a newborn? This is this is pre newborn

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And and the graph at the top is all just data entry when I'm waiting for

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Stuff to compile at work. So I can do that in chunks your goddamn loser Andy. Yeah, well, you know what?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You're here with me Steve. So what does that say about you? You are the company you keep?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Well, you know the whole pick your buggers pick your friends, but not your family thing

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I mean you moved away from us and yet you're still here Thursday nights on our zoom call

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

without fail

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, not missing any of them. It was terrible when you know when Dave was on but now it's just

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

tough I

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Agree can we talk more about Troy Brown though cuz I like that part all right talk to me about Troy Brown

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He seals the game with a first down

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Reception yeah after getting the interception

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, and that was what one of his two catches on the game

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

There wasn't a wasn't right after the interception. Oh, yeah early fourth quarter

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

His last drive

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Two minutes left. They have no time outs

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Where do you go I can tango some for around for 20 yards right?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Neil Neil game over one of his two receptions on the game was the biggest catch of the game

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That's why he's out there the two-minute drill after playing defense the whole goddamn game

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Right.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So you got there.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Get out there Troy.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We need you to catch us a goddamn first down.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, you got to seal this.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But I think the, yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And you know who's covered him and he had the tackle.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I didn't realize this.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

What was it?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Medea Williams.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh shit.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

The Corey, yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

The Corey Dillon traffic.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Corey Dillon.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That's hysterical.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So yeah, I'd say, um, this is a relatively watchable game.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

If you can find it. I don't think this one's on YouTube, so you have to go digging for it.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But yeah, I think if you can only watch a bit of it watch the second quarter because that's when all the action happens really

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

With this is an eminently watchful game because yeah

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Not a little bit of him, but the Bengals kept keeping it close and they're thirsty in the ball

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

They're actually running it. So generally a lot of these games recently the Patriots defense has just been absolutely

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, and the games get out of hand quick,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

where this game, you think it could have,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

you know, peaches kind of go up a little bit,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

but then mangles come back.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It's nothing a little back and forth since

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

you got a bunch of big names.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, a bunch of big names, like early big names too.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- And obviously it's a sick, free-brown game.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Right, yeah, which is worth watching, generally.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- He's out there outperforming Earthwood and Moreland,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

who's just getting absolutely eaten up by TJ Ushmanzada.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, I mean, I think everybody was TJ.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's mizzou.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I have a note.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Earth wind is overmatched by everybody.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I mean, not as well, but no, because wasn't he, uh,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

like undrafted or something?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, he was, he was back up on his team in college or something.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And that was not what we've decided last week, because we could before.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's not, uh, not, not something you would expect to be a starting NFL player.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But, you know, this is where the pages are this season.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And yet this 2004 defense is considered like one of the best defenses that the pages have

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

ever had, even with this struggle in the defensive back.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So yeah, I'll take.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I mean, you don't really think about that because we were talking about this is the best defense

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

they've ever had and might be even with just absolutely nobody in them.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I mean, you got Rodney.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That's probably crucial.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

If you got hurt in this year, they'd probably be a lot worse.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That's true.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Samuel has been around for a while.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Samuel's nice.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I'm rookie this year.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, so he's like, he's actually been on the field.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's more than me.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But yeah, I think, yeah, this is kind of the reason we go back

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

and watch these games because we just forget that.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Like, oh, yeah, 2014, that was really good.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But it's like, how the fuck did this defense play so well

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

with literally a makeshift MacGyver defensive backfield?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I'm Troy Brown and Earthwood and Moreland.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, and Dexter Reed, being significant time.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Significant time.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He was like a core special.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Terry, Drew, Terry, he's getting in there.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And it's just, oh my God.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, it's ridiculous.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So yeah, but I also, um, I think we got to shout out the kind of the fuck you, Tom Brady.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This was kind of peak that era too, where, um, you know, Patriots score a touchdown.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And then bangles come right back and score their touchdown.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So it's tie game and that answered the drive to answer that.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Um, where Brady, like immediately scored touchdown was, uh,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Brady complete for nine yards to somebody named Jed Weaver, who is, uh,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

with a neck roll.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

A tight end with a neck roll.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Uh,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

beautiful.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He was there a third string tight end because Daniel Graham was out.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Um, so nine yards to him, 13 yards to Kevin Falk on the,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

play that you never see them running more where he fakes the screen to the left and then spins around backwards and then throws the screen to the right.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, which you just I used to love that play, but they never run anymore.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And then a deep bomb 48 yards to patent.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And it's just like one of those, you know, fuck you response drives.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And then the next play is literally Carson Palmer pick six.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This game went from tied at seven to the pants up by two touchdowns.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, 10 or five tied at seven at eight twenty seven. It was.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Like the page is real quick drive three plays to drive the lens of the field.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And then pick six.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And it's just like Jesus Christ that that change in the.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

The vengals going along drive and get it down to another touchdown, right?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah. So, I just think of two and a half minutes left. Right.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

They just come back and score 25 seconds left. Yeah, exactly. It was just that this is what I'm

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

talking about. It was just that like, fuck you response, Patriots. This is that situation from

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

blah, they always really did that. Yeah, but they were, but it's not like they were driving up and

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

down the field the entire game. It's just kind of every time the bangle score, the Patriots be like,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

all right, well, fuck it. And how we got to do it? Like, if they, you know, they go three and

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

out every once in a while, but like, as soon as they knew to score, like fuck, we're gonna

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

go score and they just did it. March straight down the field.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I even know what about you about TJ Duckett coming in or is that just a highlight that I saw?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That was a highlight. That was the Falcons highlight.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Give me the ducats. TJ Duckett also,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

something awesome. I don't remember his first name. He was the kick returner. And I only know him

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

because I would play Madden with my college roommates.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And I was a Falcons and I told my roommate

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

not to kick it to Rossum 'cause his name rhymes was awesome.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And then for the first and only time ever,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I returned the kickoff for a touchdown

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

and was just screaming the fact that his name rhymes

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

was awesome the entire play.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And I did not let my roommate live that down.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This is when you were doing that and started going to class, right?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Uh, no, this is after that.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh, this is not Penn State.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Right.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This is afterwards.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This is after I went to go to this is, yeah, you're, you're

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

recording on the, on the page.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So I'm a, I'm a 21 year old freshman at UNH at this point, I believe.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Got it.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I think we're bringing that up Steve.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Well, as you get from bring me on this podcast, Andy,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Well, you're dirty laundry aired out for the tens of listeners we have to hear.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That's right.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Hey, we have like 20s of listeners.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

What episode are we on?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Are we getting close to 100?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

What are we on?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You know, 80 something.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We better get Troy Brown on for number 100.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Or what?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You're going to leave?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You got something better to do?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

What if number 100 would be the Chargers game?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh, I mean, Chargers games in like

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

2005, right?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, I think it's not this year, isn't it?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, no, it charges the games like way in the past.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I thought it was this year.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We have released 82 total episodes.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So we're on 83.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This will be 83.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yes, when it goes life.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And at this rate, they won't be.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You found this right there will not be an 84.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

What else you got in this game, Steve?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Anything?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

There's a note about Marvin and Harrison getting a $22 million signing

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

bonus and how massive that was.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I'm going to compare this into all the guys that recently

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

get 75 million guaranteed.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Right.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Unbelievable.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Unbelievable.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

The numbers these days are just outrageous.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And that's it in inflation.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Tell you what?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, no, well, it's NFL inflation, I guess.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But the student does some worst.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

All right.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You want me to go first?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Sure.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

My best is Troy Brown.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Everything about everything.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Steve, he made a tackle.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He got credit for a tackle in the game.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Did you know that?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's already had tackles though.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, but I mean, he did everything.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Like he was he was catching game ceiling passes.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's making tackles.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He's blocking.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Getting interceptions in the end zone.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Trying to return them.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

two catches two first downs.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He had a past defender as well.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh, yeah, two tackles, both solo.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

He doesn't need help.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Troy Brown, defensive player of the game.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

No, OK.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And I think my worst is just having to look at Marvin Lewis

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

again, because he's just--

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

he makes me sad for Bengals fans.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Because I mean, David, you know, he's like, oh, yeah,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We still kind of like them, but you could just like hear the sadness and his voice when he talked about

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Marvin Lewis

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And I think also probably the the ownership as well

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I think had something to do with how bad they were because the ownership's I think known to be

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

pretty cheap

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Just generally so yeah. Oh, and that's that's all of them until like I came about the Browns

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, they really got to the Pittsburgh Pirates here like that that guy. Yeah super stingy. Yeah

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

They just don't give a shit.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So it just makes you sad when other teams aren't run as well as the Patriots are and

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

also makes me thankful that we have Robert Kraft, who was actually a fan before he bought

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

the team.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So he like gives a shit, you know, instead of it just being like a money making operation.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So yeah, what about you?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Uh, I don't know.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I have worse except the whole Charlie Weiss leaving because, you know, I think that actually

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

affects the team pretty significantly him and Romeo Cornell leaving right around this time.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That's fair. It takes him a while to get back from that.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So it's like that's like the first sign I guess of the beginning of the last years.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This is what I'm going to call it. I'm going to watch the Patriots defensive backs play defense

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

on Ocho and Hoosh. Ocho to Moocho. I have one here.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And they both went to Oregon State, which I didn't know.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That was pretty cool. Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And they both graduated the same year.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

They were both drafted by the Bengals in 2001.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, but that's going to be fun.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But yeah, Johnson was drafted like in the first or second round.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, he's a first.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

TJ was drafted in like the sixth or seventh round.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah. But that's pretty cool.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And they're both like studs.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

The process, even Neil and see double a champion.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I didn't know that undefeated wrestler and see

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

the way champion.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, I'm defeated.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It was like 83 and zero or 80 something and zero.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Someone the bell checker Skarnekia said he is the most

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

like improved player they've ever coached.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Well, yeah, because he didn't play football.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Exactly.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Another another is that another example of Bellaciec genius?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

What did you say?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, well, I mean, there he finds guys that like,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

no one even thinks to look at.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Hey, Sebastian Volmer from the-

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, Mayor.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Mayor, yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Mayor, yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- It's gonna be Johnson.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- That, that, that Marilyn the cross guy.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You know he's got a huge heart on for that dude.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Oh, you mean Hogan?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Chris, are you?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- No, no, there's a guy, he is like the all time

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

leading score for Mayor Cross.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Oh, that's right, yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- And I played for some D3 school quarterback

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

and led them to the D3 Championship and won it.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Nice.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- All right.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- And no one knows if he's gonna be in the NFL, but.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Oh, we know.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- I have a little checker in all of the,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

the weird ones, aren't you kidding me?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- He'll be invited to camp at the very least, right?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- And this best is gonna throw you off a little bit.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But it was the Bengals' fake field goal touchdown.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- We didn't talk about that.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah, I can't really go and talk about this whole,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I've been sitting on this thing.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That was a sweet play.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- I'm surprised David didn't bring it up.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That was like probably the Bengals highlight of the game.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- And it was right after Palmer gets hurt, right?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- And like, has he even come out yet?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And like, yeah, it's literally the play

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

that he gets hurt, Carson Palmer's last play.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- It's on the third and five.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Right.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- I'm the 11 and they're in this sweet,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I don't know if I put the highlight up on the website

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

because it's actually worth watching.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

- Well, I'm not gonna do that,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

but okay, I'll find a YouTube video, link it.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We don't put other teams highlights on this on the it's on the prime time it is yeah

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

And this is a cool play. It was just well designed. Yeah, it's kind of like a

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Running back off tackle

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That's kind of a good call for Marvellous everyone's like what the fuck the quarterback just got blown up right?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like you know the perfect timing for that no one's thinking about the fake field go at that point

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So I'm actually a pretty good coach and Collins for it

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So we did have one that's good

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Like he thinks it's okay. I mean

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

For the Bengals in it

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

2004 hadn't had a winning season since 1990. They'll take me to York already, you know, yeah

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

You're gonna be a big step up for them. Yeah, that was a touchdown run by

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Bengals

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Legend Kyle Larson their pun. Yeah. Yeah

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This was his rookie season 2004

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Life would never get better

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, even pee-pee early week week 14. I mean, you know it happens

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, that that was his only ever rush touchdown. There's only ever yeah, he's only ever

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

non-punt

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Oh, yeah a couple kickoffs three kickoffs in his career. It would be the worst if one of those was the one where

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

What's his name is the big chest stomped him in the chest. Oh god, yeah, I think that that must have been passes

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah, that's the time.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It only played until 2008.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

That would be tough.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Although in 2008, his final season, he did crack the century market puns.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

This is most every, he kicked 100 puns, which feels like a lot.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Like a lot, a lot.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

The Bengals have four and 11 of them won that year.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So yeah, that makes sense.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

When you're shitty, you put in a lot.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yeah.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So all right you got anything else Steve

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

good anything else

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

you good

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Gucci all right as the kids say

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Did they suppose this is the gram get the numbies as Greg says yeah?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I don't think anybody says that Greg says he said it in the group chat and the family and everyone ignored him

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Well, right because that's what you do when somebody says something stupid like that you ignore them. Yeah

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

All right, well, I mean I think since he's here

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We should turn in next week to see how much of a blubbering little bitch

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

kuragi on the page where it's dynasty park.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We should be here next week, but okay.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We'll let him lead us out.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Well, I mean, you'll have to tune in next week.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

What is next week, Steve?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I don't know.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So I'm asking you.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Well, next week, this is a game that I vaguely remember.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

It's one of the losses that I care the least about, I will say.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But it's also...

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I know it's a loss.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Yep, you do.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So go into it knowing that.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

But it's also a game that the winning team has named it themselves.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

So we'll just...

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

We'll tickle your teaser with that, Steve, okay?

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Okay, fine.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

I'll find out when I watch it.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

Okay. If I watch it, you'll watch it. You always watch it. I don't always watch it. Always

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

watch it. Alright, well, that's it. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, David, for coming

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

on and giving us a bangles perspective on the old school. Early 2000s, years. It was

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

always nice to hear the suffering of other fans. Yeah, I feel better about my life for

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

sure. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the we were, uh, we made the right decision following the,

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

the new one. I think that was born in New Hampshire. Yeah. Awful, awful team. Yeah. So

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

yeah, so next week the Patriots will travel to Miami. Pro player stadium. From Monday night game

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

against the two and 11 Miami Dolphins. And we will see what happens next week

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals

on the pages.dinesy.podcast. See you later. Yeah, later.

2004 Week 14: Patriots vs Bengals